Monday, December 16

Too many monitors and mostly all of them suck

Hello everyone,

Maybe I need to apology for such title, but actually this article is about that there is too many blood suckers (HYIP monitors) in industry and all of them want to suck out blood from meat. This article will explain basic advertising problem in HYIP industry. Historically people who "made" this industry how it is now did it wrong and it is simply not possible to change it to other way. In this article I will try to explain how much does it cost to make program popular.



Biggest problem today is that people are lazy!!!! You wonder what I mean by this? I mean that people are simply lazy to do some research about programs where they are investing, biggest part of people just go to "trustable" sites like allmonitors.net and check most popular listings, rarely they check forums and even less then forums they check HYIP blogs. After investing in wrong programs and in wrong timing they later complain that they have lost money because of scammer admin, but sometimes problem is not admin, problem is how this industry is historically made.

Historically before HYIP programs were advertised with banners  and spam e-mails. Today people psychologically ignore banners and more then banners they ignore spam e-mails. Like Jesus from sky for admins some time ago arrived websites what brings together many monitors, they are called allmonitors. Problem with them is that some of them show too many monitors and you can't really follow what is going on. Some of them show just few monitors but really bad ones and this leads you to loosing your money.

BUT historically one thing stays the same - more monitors program has bought, more popular it (kind of) is. Of course there is also some exceptions, but principles stay the same. If admin want to advertise his program then he must buy monitors. More monitors he buys in more places his program will be visible and highest rank it will receive.


Problem: there is only one pathway today how HYIP programs advertise and it is:

1) Admin starts a HYIP;
2) Admin Buys monitors and pays them RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF FEES AND PAYMENTS and do not get anything back;


Monitors - this is where all your money goes away. You wonder why so many HYIPs are failing fast? I have one part of answer - shitty monitors. Lets do some calculations, lets take our nice friend allmonitors.net and lets see how much for admin cost to buy premium listing for all "trusted" monitors?

MNO: price $1200; fee $850; reinvest $350
HYIP Explorer: price 200; fee $0; reinvest 200$
GoldPoll: price $100; fee $0; reinvest 100$
HYIP News: price $150; fee $50; reinvest 200$
GIO: price $350; fee $55; reinvest $295
HYIP-banker: price $125; fee 5$; reinvest $120
HYIPs-Analysis: price $100; fee $10; reinvest $100

If admin want to buy all listings he pays $970 in fees, what maybe for some of you is not that much, but take in mind one golden rule - admin NEVER USES HIS OWN MONEY. Even he starts program with huge advertising, that money is never out of his pocket, most likely it is scammed money from his previous program(s).

Almost $1000 admin is spending just to buy these "trustable" monitors, where actually real monitors are two - MNO and GIO, while GIO is guy who is doing its job well, MNO is just money-making-machine for Paul what does only monitoring well. Update (13.12.2014): NOT TODAY!!!

Ok, back to things:
Let's say program is paying low interest rate, like 1.5% daily 5 days per week. All of those monitors together "deposited" $1365, where every day they get paid out $20.50. Per week it is $100, what maybe is not that much, but per month it is $400 plus 970$ what they paid in fees, what makes together $1370 out of your pocket. This do not include payment processor fees what are quite high for every payment processor. If you move money between accounts all the time then payment processors eat lot money as well and it also helps to kill program.

If admins buys just "trusted" monitors then program would have score on allmonitors.net something like 6 till 10. In case to get program noticed admin need score to be at least 40 (!) bought monitors. I'm sure not all of monitors are bought by admins money, because there is some cheap monitors who add all listings what they can find in internet just to advertise. For example there is 10 such monitors who added program and admin did not paid single cent to them, this leaves us that admin still need to purchase listing in 20 more monitors.

I'm sure that many admins like to buy monitors who offer high RCB, he buys 10 of RCB monitors and 10 others. 10 RCB monitors would cost approximately $50 per each listing, what makes it all together $500 plus 10 other monitors, what would be $100 more. This all together makes $600 just in fees. If average investment by those monitors is $100, then $100 x 20 = $2000. 1.5% interest rate makes $2000 x 1.5% = $30 daily. In month it will be $30 * 5(days) * 4(weeks) = $600. Admin pays for those monitors $1200 in first month and $600 each other month.



All of those calculations brings me to final calculations, in average admin spends $1200 + $1370 = $2570 in first month from investors pocket ($2570 !!!). and after that he spends $1370 + 400$ = $1770 ($1770 !!!) monthly just by paying fees. BUT all of this only is valid if program is playing low, if it have only 40 monitors, if admin would like to have 80 monitors then advertising costs are really huge.






This brings us to final question why I choose such loud tile "Too many monitors and mostly all of them suck". Simply go to some of those monitors and check "payout ratio", you will be surprised that for mostly all of them this ratio is really low, it just show us that monitors just take money out of program, but do not advertise programs and people do not deposit under them. I'm not sure where they put that all money what they suck out, but most likely HYIP monitor admin just covers his everyday expenses with this money. 


In the end I want to bring question for you - if advertising costs is so high why do you even invest  a single cent in poor made programs? They will run out of cash really fast anyway. Do not believe in admins fairytales and do your own research because it is your own money. I never give my money to others, I'm sure they you do not want to do that as well. Before you place deposit always check only reliable monitors, check forums and check HYIP blogs. Only when you are done with your research you can be sure where to invest.


David
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7 comments:

  1. 95% of monitors just take money out and give nothing back. I better add few good monitors, like MNO, GIO, maybe DavidNews, then 20 monitors what do not give anything back, there is zero traffic from them. Advertising with monitors is history today, I put my work in Facebook and ask HYIP blogs for reviews, because from Facebook and HYIP blogs lot of people come and deposit. I like that you in your articles call monitors "scam monitors" what is true name for them. Cheers!

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  2. I read only MNO and DavidNews.. all other is shits I think

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  3. Anonymous12/16/2013

    That's right, the main problem is that there are too many monitors, and it is hard to see who's working for investors and who do not work for investors. I am happy that there are investment blogs, where can I find accurate information, as here.

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  4. Anonymous1/03/2014

    MNO and GIO are sucks. lol , You don't know about HYIP. the main profit from a HYIP is from RCB and members will not join to those programs who have not enough trusted monitors. if you are disagree with my words, you can run a HYIP program and you will see it with your eyes. such sucks like GIO, and MNO is just eating up money from admins and they destroy this industry because if admin pay for fee so much, he can't keep live a program for long time and he will close the program soon. today all of newbies are running new HYIP but they are not succeed and they are just losing so much money because they don't know how this industry work. they don't know about basic rule of HYIP administration. because of that there is no so much admin who is understand this industry and they are just about 10 - 15 successful admin because they know about basic rule and the main problem is returning principal for running a HYIP and after that you can earn profit from HYIP.

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    1. Of course if you are admin you do not like them because they ask high fee, BUT they (MNO and GIO) do job well, if someone is not paying to any of their followers they move program to SCAM status.
      With trusted monitors you mean what - if you pay them they keep PAYING status even all regular members are scammed many days ago? This is MAIN PROBLEM with "trusted" monitors what are not-trusted in first place.

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  5. Anonymous1/04/2014

    HYIP is a ponzi game and there is need for lot of investors because if a program have not enough investors, they will close soon. GIO and MNO have not enough referrals for HYIP programs and because of that, so many admins will not use those monitors and the fee is too high. the cost of a normal program will be about 2 - 5k depend on you but it's not a less amount for people, even for admins. because of that so many admins can't be succeed and they will close their programs in 2nd days from start and because of that investors will leave HYIP industry because there is no Stability in programs. HYIP is a cycle and admin and investors should be there for a successful program.

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    1. Yes, I agree to you, it is ponzi and need lot of investors. My biggest question for all admins is - why you do not make projects where you pay for example 1.2% daily for 200 days, there is big chance that someone else can cover your deposit in 200 days. Program with such plans can work LONG time, but of course everyone is greedy and want to become rich instantly by investing in show term.
      I do not know about GIO, because I have not researched about him, but with MNO everything is clear - he supports mostly short term programs and his followers invest ONLY in short term programs (check payment ratio).
      I'm sure that BIG part of people has already left industry, but it is just because of such guys as MNO who himself and his followers support short term programs, they do "hit and run" there and regular people just loose by his advertising.
      HYIP program can be stable ONLY if is long term, you worry that so many people are leaving? I think it is enough to loose just once in program and people will never come back.

      Yes I agree that there is some smart admins who can carry out short term program for 100 days or so where lot of people will make profit, but there is just few who can really do it.

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